there was a huge set of materials for car paint somewhere I think here at Rendo. i think they were free. Seems like 2-3 years ago ..maybe p5 time or thereabouts...maybe 4.
It was a mix of mats for tires, car surfaces, chrome, etc etc ..very well done,but now after searching, I cannot seem to find them

any ideas ?

Do a search for "paint" under user Bagginsbill... won't go wrong, there.

This is what you are referring to, no longer available.

http://www.renderosity.com/homepage.php?page=2&userid=305980

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=58417

Or have a look in Acadia's stickied threads of Bagginsbill's materials.

i just downloaded the Mapps set. will give that a try.
too bad that other one is no gone. I just PMd Templar to see if they are somewhere

There was a nice set at runtimedna.

templargfx is updating his "158 car materials" for Poser.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2800552

I think he was getting close to being satisfied, and then we had a good discussion that probably sent him back to the "lab" for a bit. Once he saw what GC and Fresnel reflection and a couple other thingies would do, he got deeply bitten by the realism bug. We might not see him come up for air for a while.

Meanwhile, are you just looking for a nice glossy paint?

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3653699

Or do you want more of the metallic car paint look? I have it - I have not released it yet. It's one of the chapters in my book that I'm working on (sloowwwwwly).

Or do you want glass? Or rubber? Or leather? or ...

oh oh .. the flood gates open ...YES ..all of them :)
Great that the materials are being worked on.

I surely want some metallics .. and of course the glossies. I've been toying with the cars over at DSI ... and a few others, just as to do something, nothing way seriuous. my skill with the materials room is terrible. I read most of your stuff and my mind glossed over :)

Your book will be on my list for sure..thanks

Quote - templargfx is updating his "158 car materials" for Poser.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2800552

I think he was getting close to being satisfied, and then we had a good discussion that probably sent him back to the "lab" for a bit. Once he saw what GC and Fresnel reflection and a couple other thingies would do, he got deeply bitten by the realism bug. We might not see him come up for air for a while.

Meanwhile, are you just looking for a nice glossy paint?

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3653699

Or do you want more of the metallic car paint look? I have it - I have not released it yet. It's one of the chapters in my book that I'm working on (sloowwwwwly).

Or do you want glass? Or rubber? Or leather? or ...

If it has separate folders for things like tires, interiors, carpet, and a host of metallic fixtures, I got that too...sigh, now what was it called?

Attached Link: 158 Car Materials for Poser 5+

Car materials is split into :

Body>Chameleon
Body>Metallic ClearCoat
Body>Sparkle
Body>Standard Gloss
Body>Super Gloss
Glass
Interiors>Fabric
Interiors>Plastic
Metals
Plastics
Rubber

YES !!!
that's the one I remember :)

Proof that the mind is still working ... whew ... thank you Lord, thank you

They look great! Did you make them with matmatic?

there just the original materials I created before, with some tweaks (mainly COE), a few more colors, and re-done IDL thumbnails

I adjusted the fall-off and blinn eccentricity on many of them too

matmatic wasnt out back I first made these

the new ones look mighty nice. I like the white range especially...mica . very good. can't wait.
you going to sell them or free again ? Either way is cool by me.

Quote - matmatic wasnt out back I first made these

 
OK, but it looks like you're making pretty much the same paint over and over, just with different colors. With matmatic you could make car paints, with various amounts of sparkle, shine, glow, etc in a thousand different colors in about 5 minutes.

I found some time to finish my newest car paint shader. You can get it here:

http://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/car-paint

Here is a sampler. There are more images on the page.

Click for full size.

The idea with my car material pack was always to make a simple and quick way to apply materials to vehicles without needing to tweak the materials manually. hence the large number of colors of each material type

I know - and my point was that matmatic can crank out 1000 variations of your paint. You just make a list of the parameter values (such as color) that you want it to generate.

You're doing stuff by hand that can be automated. The generation of thumbnails can be automated as well.

In my sampler images, where there are 55 different materials in each render, did you think I made those by hand?

I really liked this truck, but it has reversed normals, and criss-crossing polygons, some reversed, in the glass. Normals forward doesn't fix it, and the transparency through multiple polygons is screwy.

Sigh.

Quote - Grrrrr. Once in a while I go looking for more free vehicles to test shaders, and there's always something funky/wrong with them in Poser.

I really liked this truck, but it has reversed normals, and criss-crossing polygons, some reversed, in the glass. Normals forward doesn't fix it, and the transparency through multiple polygons is screwy.

Sigh.

Now you're looking at something I like to muck around in: Blender 3D. Want me to fix it for you, BB? I could do this in a few minutes....

There's other modeling stuff wrong. So many of these are meant to be arch-vis and not showing real materials. This, like many of the ones I downloaded, has the windshield extending over the roof line. I guess they don't care when they just put a flat gray shader on the glass and don't even bother with rendering what's behind it.

I once "fixed" a violin that was put together like that... a total mess of narrow tris, half of them back-faced. Turned out it would have been faster to model the thing from scratch.

So, I won't insist... been over this road before.

Looks great. What a shape, those curves ... the bike looks good too. snicker

Could have sworn we had a full moon recently.

I'd love to have that Skyline model. Do you have a link?

Attached Link: http://www.dmi3d.0fees.net/models22.html

Yup. Top page. Thanks

Im in full swing now!

heres all the car paints thus far

heres all the car paints thus far

95% of the colors are actual car paint colors created from manufacturer color charts

very cool.
my dad many years ago bought a garage that was a body shop. they had all kinds of paint books with those little square sample chips...tons of colors. I think that's where I got the inspiration for color. I used to look at them a lot. For some reason the colors just sunk into my brain.

man, can't wait for your new ones to be released. and thanks again for linking yur older ones. already in my runtime :)

Quote - some of us (ok, just me) enjoy the material room and all that one can do in it, and dont want to automate nothin!

Not really about automation so much... just a heads-up: here's a thread that might interest you in terms of why doing things with maths can reap some rich rewards.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2069722

I had to post it in my gallery cos it was too big!

Damn, dude, you do nice work. I especially like the off-whites - mica and everglades. I see quite a few new cars with colors like that - they're very fashionable at the moment and your results look like the real thing.

One nit ... The "silver" clearcoat seems a little too close to white, and doesn't have the metallic look I see on Mercedes all the time.

You need one like this:

updated image

I'd still call that white, not silver.

the silver one has a soft look in the front.

very hard if not impossible in poser.

Helgard - that should be easy enough to do in the Material Room.  Spots, Clouds and stuff for the colour variations.  Just faff around with the Specularity settings and that should do it.

Probably.  :) 

LOL. Did you try and fail or just assume it is hard? Here is my paint shader with the following settings:

Diffuse Color: 111, 111, 111
Pearlescence: 1.5
Sparkle: 2

how did you get that highlight infront to look so good?

what is your secret?

It's just a Specular node, using my standard cheat for conservation of energy, where I subtract its output from 1, and run that into Diffuse_Value. The softness is also due to the Roughness set to .7.

you see when you had a sun it looked good.because you used a specular node. now that your light source is an object it doesnt look the same. we  need better soft reflections.

can someone even explain to me why the soft reflections dont look good? arent they using rays? if the rays from teh shadows look good why not for the reflection? 

Because shadow rays don't need more than about 50 to do a good job. Soft reflections would need around 1000 or more. Shadow rays have to sample only in a narrow cone. Soft reflections have to sample in a huge cone by comparison.

There are algorithms to do something like irradiance caching for this, and avoid having to do 1000 rays for every pixel. But Firefly doesn't have this.