Actually, the MATS are what I  was referring to Jordi :o). I know absolutely nothing about D|S's shaders...not even enough to make something shiny or reflective. When I pull something I've done in Poser into D|S it looks nothing alike and yet, D|S's Shader system is so confusing compared to Poser's that I can't even fix it. And for the foreseeable future, I won't be fixing it.

If I were a vendor (and I'm not), I would have no aspirations that making things for Poser or D|S was going to support me like a regular job would...it's just never going to happen. Therefore, I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were them ;o). For most, this biz will never be anything more than extra spending money ;o). That's the way I see it.

Laurie