Quote - Oh that's something entirely different form what I thought you meant.  How did you rig this in the first place?

i copyed the shoulder group in the CR2 then i renamed it to Shdr. in Blender i made the Shdr groups.

so now it folows the M4 body. but at the same time i can tweak the position so that it works in the context of the body pose.

but its not good enough. i uploaded it so that you all can test it and give me feedback.