I used Notepad++ and counted the number of times Null.obj was called. Vicky is the same. It wasn't magic. And I'm not saying that that is my problem. It probably IS the materials. I was just asking a question, but I'll be damned if you don't come off abrasive as hell sometimes... I don't claim to know everything, I'm not Ms. Gee Whiz Master Modeler, but don't make the mistake of thinking I'm stupid...please...

Excuse me if I'm way off base too. I'm getting rather tired of the attitude generally in the forums anymore...sigh.

Laurie