Ghost not to beat the dead horse here but two techs at Daz informed me quite nicely that they don't use 2010 and they don't give support for it....period. One of them told me they don't test in 2010 so they are not responsible if it doesn't work with Daz products. I have been buying from Daz since they were Zygote, but the attitude has changed there. It's like they and SM got into a fight over the fence and the customers are being forced to take sides....either Studio or Poser but not both if you want support. This is why I come here for answers, sometimes it's just some stupid thing I've overlooked and folks here recognize what the problem is and give me a heads up on it. These forums are changing as well though. some of the more experienced users get impatient with those of us that don't use Poser every day and forget some of the basic steps. I do appreciate the help I've gotten here more than most folks realize, maybe I just don't say thank you enough....thanks all.