Quote - Re the JMC dials. I'd suggest visible, but in a rolled up group (collapsed 1).

Yes, that sounds good. Of course, people with older Posers (I forgot whether dial groups were introduced in P5 or P6) would then still see those dials.

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Unless something has changed in recent versions of Poser, reading the deltas in a targetGeom channel when the figure loads will force the dial to show, even with a normal 'hidden 1'. You can partially get round that by by placing 'hidden 1' after the deltas, but it won't survive a save and reload.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I don't recall ever seeing a dial for a targetGeom that used "hidden 1". I just tested this again with Antonia-125.cr2 and also with my modified cr2 that has the new JCM control channels in the body. None of the hidden channels show up in Poser 6 or Poser Pro 2010.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.