Now Victoria 3 is rendering and working fine, I need to paly with her morphs to see, Poser 8 renders fine with the original character or its content, it struggles wirth some of the DAZ Items. Big horn sheep, dinosaousr and so forth work perfectly, I know that Michael is in the main runtime folder, so its Thorn, the only one where I duplicated the texture was in little monster. Could I just reinstalled the characters both M4 and Thorn, would it install on top of the possible bad one?