Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Leather and Suede

pjz99 opened this issue on Jul 14, 2010 · 163 posts


bob1965 posted Thu, 15 July 2010 at 7:34 AM

Quote -  Agreed. That's after all how you make clothes - and boots FIT - by approximating the topology as closely to the figure as possible. And of course that isn't "copying" - but IIRC there has been problems earlier with blatant "shrinkwrapping" techniques. Since Hexagon isn't capable of that, it's never been an issue to me L

Going to quote your post on this matter since due to technical considerations the subject is not an issue to you so shouldn't offend.:biggrin: (Plus you understand that fitting a new mesh to an existing mesh as an add-on isn't copying, amazing number of people don't get that point.)

Using a shrinkwrap modifier on a mesh of your own creation to fit to an existing mesh to create an accessory such as clothing is not a copyright violation because the original mesh topology is not used.

It is in effect no different than fitting your mesh to the original model by hand. Even when a shrinkwrap modifier has been used on your own mesh for quick fitting to the original figure a good deal of hand work must still be done to make a proper model.

The key point is that you must use your own mesh as the basis for the new item.

To avoid the cries of  "But your using the original mesh to fit to!" readers need to understand that topology means the placement of the verts, edges, faces, rings, loops, etc.

Your own mesh while following the volume of the original mesh does not use the same layout of components.

A violation would be chopping out the torso and shoulders of V4, cleaning up the edges, remapping it and calling it a t-shirt. The difference being that in the hack and slash method you are using the original topology...not your own mesh.

The case when shrinkwrap/retopology would be a violation would be if someone were to use it to copy an original mesh volume to create a competing figure, as in shrinkwrapping/retopologizing  a mesh onto V4 then passing off the resulting mesh as a new figure.

Folks, if any of you think that the above assessment is incorrect then you need to report every single item of clothing ever made for any Poser figure as a copyright infringement because every item whether made through retopology, shrinkwrap modifiers or pure hand placement of polys follows the contours of the original figure it was created for to a large degree, otherwise it would not fit the figure.

@pjz99

Appropriate response, your take on it was pretty much what I read in the post from the non-modeler too.