litst, I have a question about this. Where is you texture "very old and rusty" in the shader tree? And I take it you use a Photoshop file for the map? Do you make an alpha channel in Photoshop? Or just make text on a solid white background and save it as a .psd file and use it that way? My inquiring mind wants to know! You are the texture master. You should write a book about texturing in Carrara, you would become rich very quickly, I'd be the first to buy it, seriously you should think about doing it, your the master! kaom