Questor thank you very much for all that information. Other then some old Zygote MAX models I got a long time ago I don't have any desire to start learning how to make models for poser :) So I don't think I will be using the Character Setup. I don't have 3d Max either so honestly the extra plugins there are also a little bit of a waste for me... (yeah I know I have Zygote Max models - I... um made a mistake :P) Again - I wish they had made a Bryce plugin - then I would have jumped for the buy because importing into Bryce is proving confusing for me (and I have read a lot of Tutorials on it) As of yet - I have no really future direction about poser or modelling - and just doing it as a passtime while doing Reviews for a computer hardware website, and university (thus why I'm so damn poor :P). This is one of the other reasons that I haven't been buying anything either. Poser I got cheap in the sale - and wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't because I got a big discount. Thanks again for your help Tracey-Anne (WiNC)