I like to thank all of you for taking your time to give input here, and Im taking all ideas into consideration. Im not sure what Ill end up doing, but this isnt the first time something like this has happened, and I dont like being the old stick in the mud concerning any of you guys here. This forum runs very smoothly, and I like to keep it that way, and keep all of us fellow Brycers doing what we should be doing...rendering:) Hopefully, something will get figured out to make the challanges run alot smoother. How about a permanent thread with the rules listed, and lock that thread and just post a link at the top in the forum message box? Because apparently, not alot of folks read the FAQ(mostly from the amount of repeated questions here that are covered in the FAQ). What do ya'll think? Ken