The normal anti-aliasing was a little smoother than the 4 rays per pixel thingy, but for animation purposes, it is not significant. I have yet to try a higher rays-pre-pixel setting to see if it is better while still being faster than the normal anti-aliasing. I also notice that rendering at a higher resolution without anti-aliasing can be faster than with it. One could render the pic 50% larger and then resample the image to a smaller size, creating an anti-aliased effect. I will post some images in the near future to see if these techniques are worth it or not. Konan