Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: TopGFX

IdolStar opened this issue on Aug 30, 2010 · 92 posts


derrys1969 posted Mon, 06 September 2010 at 10:07 AM

Quote - You may assume others don't already know about some measures to reduce piracy you mention, but may I suggest you look up what playing "devil's advocate" means and how it differs from being an actual "advocate." 

Secondly, the piece by hiperia3d I quoted and my own point were about how tolerance of piracy helps a lot of new people on the scene think "it's ok" and "everybody's doing it" and that doesn't help us developers at all. And more to the point (my point) people in position to be role models such as community leaders ideally would NOT take this tolerant stance especially in public, just IMO. 

Not trying to change anyones' minds here.  Forget I posted.

Definition of devil's advocate: In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, just for the sake of argument. In taking such position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. The purpose of such process is typically to test the quality of the original argument and identify weaknesses in its structure, and to use such information to either improve or abandon the original, opposing position.

I'm well aware what a devil's advocate is and according to the definition above, that's exactly what I did.  Now, if I hurt your feeling in the process, well, I can't help that because I meant no harm.

People are going to get out of it what they want, some will see my point, others will look at it as giving them "permission" to go ahead and do what they wanted in the first place.  All I can do is encourage thought on both sides and I stand by my argument.  You stated I should have a ZERO TOLERANCE stance on it.  If I was part of the Internet police, I would stop piracy just like everyone else, even if my tolerance for it is not all the way down to zero.  Why?  Because, in any form it hurts the original creator.  Bottomline.  I guess I had to just spell that out since obviously I offended some people.

As far as the community leader being a role model and they shouldn't have a tolerance?

1.) I'm am a simple forum coordinator, do you even know what that entails?  It sure as heck does not involve any leadership in any capacity except in guiding someone to follow the TOC of gallery posting.

2.) Even if I was a community leader, so to speak, I'm entitled to my own opinion.  Statements like yours are why many crooked politicians get elected who they shouldn't.  People don't like to hear the truth.  They would rather you lie to them, and that perplexs me.

3.)We're going to have to agree to disagree.  I'm not here to get you to look at it from my stand point nor are you here to get me to look at it from yours.  If you are familiar with the measures, I go back one of my previous posts and say that instead of making something negative out of the fact that I played "devil's advocate", use those measures to better protect yourself.

Someone just shared a DMCA form that can be filed electronically very quickly.  I suggest you start there.

Peace.