Actually it's oil and silicone. I can understand why you don't like cheddar. You have some incredible cheese in France, If I were from France I probobly wouldn't eat chedar either. And I can understand your dislike of Adobe and Photoshit. I just use it because I hate Corels stuff, Photpaint and Draw do not work very well for me, I hate the interfaces. So I don't have any other alternatives to Photoshop, I guess I could use GIMP and it's free. Jasc Paint shop pro isn't too bad for a cheap program. Do you use anything other than Photoshop for image manipulation? Any suggestions of some great program that I don't know about? Deep paint is a great Photoshop plugin, and the brushes rule, I also use Painter 5.5, and I really like it, but I can't use it for everything I need to do. I guess I use Photoshop because I've used it for so long, and it's what I learned and used in college, so it's just a program of habit for me. MMMMMMM cheddar! LOL Any great French cheese you could recommend, I love all kinds of cheese,so I'm willing to try anything. kaom