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Subject: OT: Recommendations for Keylogger detection


Larry F ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 6:20 PM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 3:02 AM

... who has any?  What do you know of them?  What do you use?  What would you recommend?

Thanks.

Larry F


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 6:24 PM

a good Antivirus to start with
and then anti malware program like http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php



Willber ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 7:14 PM

 Spybot  http://www.safer-networking.org/en/home/index.html
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.com/
used here. Never have any problems.
There are free basic versions and that's all I have ever used.

Kaspersky Antivirus2010  is on sale and is good for a year after activation. It's what I also use.

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Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 7:29 PM

http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/?lng=en

It's free.  However, the free version doesn't auto update so if you want to run it again at a future date, you need to go and redownload it.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 7:29 PM

It really depends on what you need your keylogger to do. Do you want it to save every keystroke of the keyboard to keep you from loosing data? Do you want it to monitor what your kids are doing on the PC? There are several free keylogging programs out there. I use this one.

http://download.cnet.com/Free-KGB-Key-Logger/3000-2162_4-10357898.html


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 7:38 PM

erm

he said " Recommendations for Keylogger detection"



Larry F ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 7:55 PM

Thanks all (Kaibach especially)!  I'm asking about detectors!  Any recommendations about your or others experience with reliable programs, which I know, of course, that NOTHING will detect EVERYTHING,

Just trying to get as broad a range of info as possible (which I guess would be what keyloggers themselves would do, LOL).  Any and all info appreciated!  Thanks again!


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Tue, 07 September 2010 at 9:16 PM

Well excuse me for missing one word and offering what I thought he was asking for. Antivirus and Malware detector programs aren't the same as KeyLog detectors either. There are several of those available through cNet who is a trusted site for most geek software needs. You'll find two very good ones here:

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=Keylogger+Detector&searchtype=downloads


ghonma ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 3:27 AM

Keyloggers aren't as big a problem as them connecting to the internet to send the logs to whatever So while you search for a detection tool, get a good outgoing firewall ASAP. This may also incidentally detect your keylogger when it tries to connect to the net.

There are several free and paid ones out there though the only one I know that's free and nice and works well with win7 64 is COMODO personal firewall.


Larry F ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 5:21 AM · edited Wed, 08 September 2010 at 5:27 AM

Quote - Well excuse me for missing one word and offering what I thought he was asking for. Antivirus and Malware detector programs aren't the same as KeyLog detectors either. There are several of those available through cNet who is a trusted site for most geek software needs. You'll find two very good ones here:

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=Keylogger+Detector&searchtype=downloads

Thank you!  Actually, I have been researching this subject for quite some time, especially after a close friend told me a real HORROR story - her actual experience.  I have been firewalled and antivirused and malware detecting for years, (operating at least under the illusion of relative safety) but then again, so had she (Still correcting the problems and repairing the damage she suffered).  

There does seem to be a consensus among some of the more "geeky" tech sites that most free keylogger detectors don't quite keep up with the paid ones and some are even part of the problem, but I won't be naming any of those.

In such a diverse and widely knowledgeable community as this I'm looking to learn more about this subject. 

Keep them coming.  And thanks again!

Larry F


Larry F ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 5:32 AM

Quote - Keyloggers aren't as big a problem as them connecting to the internet to send the logs to whatever So while you search for a detection tool, get a good outgoing firewall ASAP. This may also incidentally detect your keylogger when it tries to connect to the net.

There are several free and paid ones out there though the only one I know that's free and nice and works well with win7 64 is COMODO personal firewall.

Oh yeah, this is a big part of what I'm learning (actually knew it but great to have it reaffirmed).  Thank you!!!


lmckenzie ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 8:46 AM

Attached Link: kldetector

Not an endorsement, simply one I found a few weeks ago. I do second the endorsement of Comodo. In addition to traditional firewall functions, it provides good functionality for protecting the registry, catching stealth installs etc. They also have an anti-virus you can install but I prefer Avast.

If I were more concerned, I'd probably install a virtual machine (with VirtualPC ,  VMWare etc) or a dual boot and a clean OS install and then use only that to connect to sites where I was going to submit sensitive information - and use it for nothing else.

I don't know how reliable anti-keyloggers are. At the least, I'd want one that ran constantly rather than relying on periodic scans. I read of one case where the FBI installed a logger on a suspect's machine that only captured keystrokes when he went to certain sites. to satisfy the limits of their search authorization. Anything the government has, some clever hacker has probably figured out as well :-)

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 9:22 AM

As with all things internet, Keyloggers don't get installed via the net unless you allow certain things to happen with your browser. Don't run ActiveX or Java Scripts unless you know where they're from and trust them. Always scan your downloads to make certain they're only installing what they're supposed to install. Also, at this time, most keyloggers are still installed the old fashioned way, by people who have hands on access to your PC.


Larry F ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 9:38 AM

Quote -
I don't know how reliable anti-keyloggers are. At the least, I'd want one that ran constantly rather than relying on periodic scans. I read of one case where the FBI installed a logger on a suspect's machine that only captured keystrokes when he went to certain sites. to satisfy the limits of their search authorization. Anything the government has, some clever hacker has probably figured out as well :-)

Totally interesting me thinks.  Also, I've mentioned to my friend that someone may have had access to her PC, however brief, though she is pretty certain not.  What times we live in - interesting if nothing else.  Thank you!


Larry F ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 9:42 AM

Quote - Not an endorsement, simply one I found a few weeks ago. I do second the endorsement of Comodo. In addition to traditional firewall functions, it provides good functionality for protecting the registry, catching stealth installs etc. They also have an anti-virus you can install but I prefer Avast.

If I were more concerned, I'd probably install a virtual machine (with VirtualPC ,  VMWare etc) or a dual boot and a clean OS install and then use only that to connect to sites where I was going to submit sensitive information - and use it for nothing else.

Thank you very much.  I'm exploring both of these.  One of my neighbors does the VirtualPC thing and he seems very satisfied with it.  He has a lot of time on his hands - fully retired - and a real geeky type AND almost 80.  Almost deserves a "Who knew?" but wouldn't want to seem age-ist.

Thanks again.


Winterclaw ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 10:42 AM

hijack this - can find most things running on your PC, but you'll need to find a security forum that'll tell you what's going on.

Crap cleaner - it might be able to find keyloggers

Spybot - couldn't hurt

Good AV program - can also find keyloggers

Now, is there any particular reason why you are worried about keyloggers (did your friend actually get one or lose info another way)?  You're more likely to click on a fake email asking for your information IMO.  Some people also install keyloggers (electronic and physical ones) on their spouse's / GF's / kids' machines if there are trust issues going on.  There are also other things like using popular passwords, brute force programs, etc to break in and get info.  Or you could be the NCsoft site which has a bug where you can sometimes see another person's account when you log in.

WARK!

Thus Spoketh Winterclaw: a blog about a Winterclaw who speaks from time to time.

 

(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)


Mogwa ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 10:58 AM

Spyware Doctor has pulled my buns out of the fire more times than I can count. It's also an effective defense against those evil hidden rootkits, or any memory resident program, whether it's running or not.  That should include keyloggers.
You can download the demo for free to give it a test run, but you'll have to pay for a fully functional version. So it goes.

http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/

AVG Free Edition has performed better for me than any other commercial AV program. If you're a Firefox user, there's a plugin that will identify dangerous sites when doing doing a URL search on any search engine.

http://download.cnet.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320142.html

Since I've been using these two apps together, I've never had any sort of infected file problems.


parkdalegardener ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 12:13 PM

I second the free AVG. I use it with Firefox and while it can be aggressive at times I would rather err on the side of caution. That and the firewall in my router have kept this machine clean for years and there are 3 different users on this computer. I occasionally run Lavasoft's AdAware as well just in case of nasties that Avg may have missed. There are seldom any.
pdg



Larry F ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 7:22 PM

Quote - hijack this - can find most things running on your PC, but you'll need to find a security forum that'll tell you what's going on.

Crap cleaner - it might be able to find keyloggers

Spybot - couldn't hurt

Good AV program - can also find keyloggers

Now, is there any particular reason why you are worried about keyloggers (did your friend actually get one or lose info another way)?  You're more likely to click on a fake email asking for your information IMO.  Some people also install keyloggers (electronic and physical ones) on their spouse's / GF's / kids' machines if there are trust issues going on.  There are also other things like using popular passwords, brute force programs, etc to break in and get info.  Or you could be the NCsoft site which has a bug where you can sometimes see another person's account when you log in.

Hey there Winterclaw,
Thanks for all those recommendations - am quite familiar with all and used/using all at various points.

As to "any particular reason", I'm more interested than worried because I find more knowledge about almost anything potentially negative tends to lessen attendant anxiety.

Thank you again for those recommendations, which I consider to be excellent.


Larry F ( ) posted Wed, 08 September 2010 at 7:25 PM

Quote - I second the free AVG. I use it with Firefox and while it can be aggressive at times I would rather err on the side of caution. That and the firewall in my router have kept this machine clean for years and there are 3 different users on this computer. I occasionally run Lavasoft's AdAware as well just in case of nasties that Avg may have missed. There are seldom any.
pdg

parkdalegardener (great handle!) and Mogwa thank you both for those recommendations.  Since I'm very familiar with them, I'm almost starting to feel smart.

Please, any more recommendations?  All greatly appreciated!  Thanks in advance.

Larry F


lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 09 September 2010 at 12:04 AM · edited Thu, 09 September 2010 at 12:08 AM

Some interesting & informative articles. Note: You may or may  not have the Windows on-screen keyboard installed - I usually leave off the accessibility apps when setting up Windows.[

www.securelist.com/en/analysis](http://www.securelist.com/en/analysis?pubid=204791931)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging 

www.lazybit.com/index.php/2007/03/01/free_keylogger_protection

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Larry F ( ) posted Thu, 09 September 2010 at 1:13 AM

Quote - Some interesting & informative articles. Note: You may or may  not have the Windows on-screen keyboard installed - I usually leave off the accessibility apps when setting up Windows.[

www.securelist.com/en/analysis](http://www.securelist.com/en/analysis?pubid=204791931)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging 

[ www.lazybit.com/index.php/2

007/03/01/free_keylogger_protection](http://www.lazybit.com/index.php/2007/03/01/free_keylogger_protection?blog=2)

Yes, those are certainly 'I & O" - had not read the last one before.  This is exactly in line with what I'm after.  Fun read that last!  Thanks again!

Larry F


lmckenzie ( ) posted Fri, 10 September 2010 at 4:15 AM

Attached Link: Anti-Keylogger-Virtual-Keyboar

*"had not read the last one before"*

Just went back and read the comments - apparently neither the Windows OSK or using a VM are safe either :-)

Here is an on-screen keyboard which (supposedly) is crafted to defear keyloggers. Just downloading it to give it a try.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Larry F ( ) posted Fri, 10 September 2010 at 5:53 AM · edited Fri, 10 September 2010 at 5:53 AM

Hey there!  Thank you.  That's me right behind you! 


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