Wow I was looking at Vue 8.5. wooow. it renders humans awesomely and realistic.
Well i'm sure it has to do with the skin textures too and the great characters. look at this. NOw this is what i would like to see available for us Poser/DAZ users.

But it comes at a price and they **** raised the price. When i bought Vue 5 Infinite it was 800 dollars. now 8.5 is like 1495 dollars. It's like buying a good computer. oh well, i guess it's for PROS only.

I'm going to see if they have a Hobbiest version, i'm sure they do