I just realized that this thread is not exactly encompassed by "is poser art" and "why cant poser render better" threads. It just closely resembles an argument I have had with people before on whether just anyone can get the same results with or without artistic talent on poser because of  their supposed "fact" that you cant make anything with poser because it can't create anything because it is all premade content. That subject irritates me because the people who say that will never even try to do it themselves because of their superiority complex (given them by their hacked or learning edition copies of software they will likely never be able to afford full legitimate versions of)

Just to clarify things, I have nothing against the op (I wish he would choose his thread topics better sometimes but have nothing against him) and I was not saying ban him I never said that. I just didn't think about how one usually keeps someone from posting on this site so forget that.

What am I doing arguing on a forum I have 4 hours till a paper is due.