Hi, This always suprises me, I've known of a tool for a few years, it's called "hotline" (www.bigredh.com for details) but even hardened internet addicts don't seem to know about it. There are several hotline servers out there that carry 3D stuff, some with poser specific stuff, some not. Either way, it's one way to attempt to "keep up" with the ever changing amount of "stuff" out there, and a great way to search for stuff you need. It's also not part of the "regular" internet, (it uses a proprietery protocol on the back of TCP/IP) the servers are run mostly of DSL cable modems and the like, and are far more like the "original" internet of 1994-96 in flavour, (which is a refreshing change to the increasingly clean and corporate internet of today :) You'll certainly be amazed by what you can find, though this may or may not be a good thing depending on how you look at it ;P later jb (and no, I'm not telling you how it works, I always end up doing that... :)