no way dude, upgrades are shit these days. i "demoed" a copy of r12... and lemme tell ya nothing but new interface and colors...dofferent shades of grey and blue everywhere. some nice new Mograph stuff (which i dont get anyway) and a lot of bells and whistles... nothing we need...

but damn man vray is so awesome !!!

real life displacement, real life sunshine ivy, 2 sided materials...WOW man... truly glorious longest render i had was 3 minutes.

...but i miss Vue :(

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.