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Subject: Poser Brass material?

BionicRooster opened this issue on Oct 09, 2010 · 14 posts
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BionicRooster ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 8:02 PM · edited Sun, 01 December 2024 at 6:37 AM
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Anyone know of a good brass node setup that looks realistic? I am trying to get this trumpet looking good, but am having a helluva time getting it to look decent. Here's what it looks like so far.

                                                                                                                    

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 8:38 PM

Attached Link: Metal shaders

Try this thread for some good ideas. 

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dorkmcgork ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 9:38 PM

bionic it looks good

go that way really fast.
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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 11 October 2010 at 9:47 PM · edited Mon, 11 October 2010 at 9:51 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2803614&page=4#message_3663259

one can do a simple brass shader, as shown in bill's threads (chrome with brass colour), but it needs a full scene with envdome/hdri/IDL to look good IMVHO. brass in an empty scene has nothing to reflect.


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 12:23 AM

file_460234.jpg

this is what I get (poser 8).  the shader violates fresnel's law, but with spec < 1 it looks even worse. maybe bill's heavy metal shader compensates for this anomaly. p.s. it's the free cornet exported from free version of c7pro.


templargfx ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 1:55 AM

file_460235.JPG

this is my brass shader, thoough it is meant for smaller objects

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templargfx ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 4:24 AM

file_460236.jpg

here it is on something more substantial

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BionicRooster ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 6:32 AM
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Well ty for your ideas. I will try them out and see what becomes of it. I think my problem was the empty scene like was suggested. I was operating under the logic that ,"if I can get it to look good with nothing to reflect, it will look good when there is something to reflect." I guess I can include oth kinds of MATs tho, one that's totally raytracing and one that fakes it a little. One again, thanks for the ideas. I've spent more time trying to get the texture right then modeling it. It only took me 2 hours to model ffs lol

                                                                                                                    

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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 6:35 PM

file_460258.jpg

att img uses bill's metalsheavy.mt5 (rdna).


BionicRooster ( ) posted Wed, 13 October 2010 at 9:26 AM
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Well, it doesn't show much reflection after I added the atmosphere, but this is one I am working on for a promo image.

                                                                                                                    

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Grangehearts ( ) posted Wed, 13 October 2010 at 1:59 PM

Looks good

Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 13 October 2010 at 8:36 PM

bion, keep in mind (if trying to sell an item for user in poser), many users dunno:

  • what render settings to use to get proper reflection
  • how to lite the scene
  • what material settings to use to get proper reflection

hence you gotta spell it out for them, step by step.


BionicRooster ( ) posted Wed, 13 October 2010 at 9:51 PM
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I know, and I am including several MATs for them to choose from. From one that looks good without raytracing to one that's all raytracing. And as far as lighting goes, I've been switching between different light sets, and, I'm not thinking this is an item that is affected too much like, say, a skin texture would. So hopefully, here in the near future, there will be a cheap, posable trumpet up for sale... As soon as I get promos done, package it up, etc.... Anyone thinking about selling, remember this... Modeling is the EASY part of selling... Trumpet took 2 hours to model to give you some sort of indication.

                                                                                                                    

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Cyberwoman ( ) posted Thu, 14 October 2010 at 2:01 AM

Quote - Modeling is the EASY part of selling...

So true. I've got a product package I'm working on that took me about a week of intermittent work to model. It's been over a month, and I still haven't finished writing the darn MAT poses...

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