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Subject: The poor lonely PoserPo females, no one wants


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 05 October 2010 at 6:05 PM · edited Sun, 01 December 2024 at 6:44 AM

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Well, I took them for a spin, A bit of texture work. Adjusted the body a bit and morphed mostly the breasts.

From default figure, to small-medium, and larger breasts.
A bit of facial work, but not a lot.

Just centered the eyes, made the braws bigger, and a tiny mouth job.

Well, I like working on the lower poly models.

Enjoy, and sugestions are welcome.
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vilters ( ) posted Tue, 05 October 2010 at 6:31 PM

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A second screen grab from the side

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Tue, 05 October 2010 at 6:39 PM

Soften up the "Squaring" features of the Jaws.


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Tue, 05 October 2010 at 9:00 PM

I used to draw people like that in 5th grade.  Please tell me Poser Pro does not really include such figures.  I'm using Poser 6 which is bad enough without Vicki.

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edgeverse ( ) posted Tue, 05 October 2010 at 9:49 PM

The new Poser 8/Poser women are like that. I prefer the G2 Females from Poser 7 like SydneyG2,
JessiG2, OliviaG2. Great rigging.

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infinity10 ( ) posted Tue, 05 October 2010 at 10:46 PM

 Izumi and Koji are fine for my East Asian character renders.

James and Simon are my poser crash test dummies, basically....

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dorkmcgork ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 1:04 AM

yeah i don't like them either : ;

vic 4 all the way baby

go that way really fast.
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dphoadley ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 2:47 AM · edited Wed, 06 October 2010 at 2:50 AM

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Dear **vilters**, No matter what you do, there will always be some clowns who think that it's really sophisticated to bash your efforts!  My personal opinion of V4 is that she's an anatomical abortion!  In my eyes, that's very good  work indeed, and having updated to Poser Pro 2010, I wouldn't mind having a copy of that character morph myself.  As you know, my own figure of choice is still the P4 Posette, whom I've remapped, and even incorporated Hellborn's genital hip for her.  This is my Graphic Novel's main character, Esther Abrabanel, with a lovely V3 skin texture, and bagginbills VSS shader. DO keep up the good work! dph

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vilters ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:12 AM · edited Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:25 AM

For those who do not know, these figures are ultra Low Poly, and are for PoserPro what the P4 Lo Res figures where for Poser4. (As compared to Posette at the time)

In no way where they intended to compete with higher poly models.

But, and that was the intention of this post, as background figures, they are very usable. (With a bit of tweaking)

 

I also did not want the "Super Troooper" - Super thin, Super model.

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ypvs ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:21 AM

Who else would you use if(!) you wanted to render an image of Susan Boyle on her quest for 15 mins of fame? The cynic in me would say that Poser characters are less manufactured than X-Factor contestants.

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EsnRedshirt ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 9:49 AM

I primarily use "stock" Poser characters (with maybe an added face morph.) With the right materials and nodes, they can be quite attractive (IMHO.)


basicwiz ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 10:45 AM

 Where are the versions with larger breasts? They all look small to me. :)


MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 11:38 AM

their shoulders are strange to look at.  ?



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edgeverse ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:18 PM · edited Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:21 PM

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To be honest, I don't really care for the Poser 8 women (Alysin, Alisha, etc) becuase they look odd. They look emotionless. Perhaps they are fembots. Who knows.

I like Sydney, and JessiG2.
I mostly use the stock figures like the G2 people/P6 James & Jessi when I am building a prop (which can seen in my latest freebie the community http://www.sharecg.com/v/44155/3D-Model/What-a-great...-crate? ) or a scene.

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wespose ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:53 PM

I went from Poser 5 to Poser 8, @ 6 years of using Poser & D/S and I can honestly say that Ive never actually rendered a stock poser figure. They just dont look good to me.


edgeverse ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 3:59 PM

Compare Poser 4's Posette to:

Poser 5's Judy
Poser 6's Jessi
Poser 7's Sydney
Poser 8's Alyson

you can see the design and detail have greatly improved.

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ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Wed, 06 October 2010 at 8:14 PM
Cyberwoman ( ) posted Thu, 07 October 2010 at 11:04 AM

Those look great! I think for background/minor characters or even animations they would be perfect. I love it when people make nice characters from the "less sophisticated" figures (my current obsession is Victoria 2 low-res).

And that is an amazing Posette render! I love Posette, but I don't use her a whole lot and I never would have recognized her in that image!

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momodot ( ) posted Thu, 07 October 2010 at 12:53 PM

Good work vilters. The lowered breasts look good esp.

I am always glad to see what you are up to.



WandW ( ) posted Thu, 07 October 2010 at 2:04 PM · edited Thu, 07 October 2010 at 2:13 PM

Quote - For those who do not know, these figures are ultra Low Poly, and are for PoserPro what the P4 Lo Res figures where for Poser4. (As compared to Posette at the time)

IIRC they work in the Face Room, and are redistributable, as well.

Edit-looking at the EULA, I did recall correctly that these figures if altered are redistributable...

“Unrestricted Content” means Content included with or part of the Program that is specifically
identified in the Documentation or listed in this EULA as Unrestricted Content. The following
figure geometries and their associated textures are Unrestricted Content: low res male, low res
female, medium res male, medium res female.

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edgeverse ( ) posted Thu, 07 October 2010 at 5:08 PM

I didnt know you could use the poserpro female in the face room.

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NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Fri, 08 October 2010 at 5:44 AM

They load up in the face room but the results are not good. The mouth especially tends to disintegrate in the face room.
 

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edgeverse ( ) posted Fri, 08 October 2010 at 2:03 PM

I saw that last night. I was messing with her in the face room, she turned okay, then i went to the main pose room and she looked weird.

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ima70 ( ) posted Fri, 08 October 2010 at 8:13 PM · edited Fri, 08 October 2010 at 8:16 PM

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it's a great job!, I think those characters a starting points for character development. Sixus1 have a nice lo res Female at ShareCG that are redistributable too.

DPHoadley: this is NeaP4 Posette by Pitklad (my prefered female too,great work Pitklad), I think she looks good enough using a P4 style texture by 3Dream, really nice texture, isn't it?


momodot ( ) posted Fri, 08 October 2010 at 11:52 PM

That looks very nice, ima70.



Schecterman ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 5:43 AM · edited Sat, 09 October 2010 at 5:43 AM

Quote - Compare Poser 4's Posette to:

Poser 5's Judy
Poser 6's Jessi
Poser 7's Sydney
Poser 8's Alyson

you can see the design and detail have greatly improved.

Judy was a tragedy. Like a car wreck at rush hour. The body was good enough, IMO better in some ways than many Poser models even since, but the face was... I dunno, not good. ;-)

Judy however could have been a great figure with some more work. There were all kinds of problems with the mesh in addition to simply not looking that great all over. Flipped polys, unwelded vertices and that sort of thing. Not to take anything away from whoever modeled it - I'm sure he or she was well aware of its shortcomings - but I blame Judy's end result as a decision by the Poser owners of the time to just get it out the door. Still though, they could have updated Judy with a better version, yet chose not to, which is a shame IMO because I liked Judy and thought with some work she could have been a real contender. I've been working on and off on "fixing" Judy in Modo for almost 2 years now, but I can't help but feel that's a wasted effort since I don't know how to make a model posable in Poser, and the mesh couldn't be redistributed to someone else to do the fixing to make her available for free or otherwise.

Jessi, IMO, was just all kinds of wrong. "She" looked alien, or somehow suffering from some sort of serious muscular/skeletal disease. That's not a stab at the modeler though, since it's obvious that whomever modeled Jessi had skills, but rather a stab at the design choices by the PTB  in Poserland at the time. Like they thought that maybe if they did their best to create the perfect anti-Victoria somehow it would sell better.

Sydney, Alyson... I dunno - they are what they are. Far better than I could do from scratch, so I have to have respect for the modelers and their abilities. Again, I'd guess their appearances were more dictated by the wants of The Suits as opposed to the artistic choices the modelers may have made if left alone and given as much time as they wanted. That's just a guess though.

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Schecterman ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 6:32 AM · edited Sat, 09 October 2010 at 6:32 AM

Of course if you think about it, Smith Micro has every reason in the world to want to include figures with Poser that are, uhh... lacking, so to speak - they realize that if a figure is good enough, it might have potential to compete if the user-created content is good enough.

In other words, they might be able to cash in on selling character packages, so that could very well be why we see what we see when we load an included Poser figure. It would be far less in their interests to create a fully-finished, high detail loaded figure with great textures to include; since people aren't buying Poser for the figures, it's no real incentive for them to include awesome figures, and it makes far more sense to create so-so figures and hope for the best in terms of Content Paradise sales.

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edgeverse ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 11:38 AM

Some of the poser people were ok. Judy was okay, but you needed to tweak her more and more. Thoug, I used the default Judy in one of my printed comics.

Jessi, Sydney and the rest of the G2 people are good.
I like poser6 jessi. theres much you can do and i have many great facial morphs for as well as textures.

The poser 8 people, those i dont really care for. They bend strange and thier faces look odd.

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-Timberwolf- ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 12:44 PM

Jessi has allways been a toon figure to me.Posette sucks as hell-reminding me at those old P4 days,where Poser has been allmost useless IMO .G2 figures are the only really good stock figures ever.@Schecterman: You can redistribute the Judy -mesh ,if you encode it.Either with RTencoder or Objection mover.I completly aggree with you about Judy.


Schecterman ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 12:57 PM · edited Sat, 09 October 2010 at 12:58 PM

Quote - @Schecterman: You can redistribute the Judy -mesh ,if you encode it.Either with RTencoder or Objection mover.I completly aggree with you about Judy.

Well what I've been doing is far from complete, and I don't even know if RT Encoder or anything else could be used, since I've created a whole lot of new geometry and deleted some old geometry.

I don't know how those encoding/redistributing thingies work, but I was under the impression that the geometry had to be the same as the base figure. What I was doing with Judy is pretty drastic surgery. ;-)

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-Timberwolf- ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 1:23 PM

New geom,old Geom this shouldn't matter. That encoding works by setting the original *.obj-file as base file and your new *.obj-file as a target file.The tool gives you a differens file ,which is the encoded file you are allowed to redestribute.The user has to have the base *.obj to be able to deode the difference .file.


Schecterman ( ) posted Sat, 09 October 2010 at 1:30 PM

Oh I see. Well thank you for the information - maybe I'll go ahead and finish it after all, and then look for someone to do the rigging in Poser.

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Silke ( ) posted Mon, 11 October 2010 at 5:44 PM · edited Mon, 11 October 2010 at 5:49 PM

Quote - it's a great job!, I think those characters a starting points for character development.
Sixus1 have a nice lo res Female at ShareCG that are redistributable too.

DPHoadley: this is NeaP4 Posette by Pitklad (my prefered female too,great work Pitklad), I think she looks good enough using a P4 style texture by 3Dream, really nice texture, isn't it?

That's really nice actually.
Is that the Sassy Hair? Trying to remember hehe.

Kozaburo Messy Hair, just remembered. :)
Still a great hair, even now.

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JPX ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 7:47 PM

Quote - it's a great job!, I think those characters a starting points for character development.
Sixus1 have a nice lo res Female at ShareCG that are redistributable too.

DPHoadley: this is NeaP4 Posette by Pitklad (my prefered female too,great work Pitklad), I think she looks good enough using a P4 style texture by 3Dream, really nice texture, isn't it?

Very, very nice!


ima70 ( ) posted Tue, 12 October 2010 at 9:42 PM

Quote - > Quote - it's a great job!, I think those characters a starting points for character development.

Sixus1 have a nice lo res Female at ShareCG that are redistributable too.

DPHoadley: this is NeaP4 Posette by Pitklad (my prefered female too,great work Pitklad), I think she looks good enough using a P4 style texture by 3Dream, really nice texture, isn't it?

That's really nice actually.
Is that the Sassy Hair? Trying to remember hehe.

Kozaburo Messy Hair, just remembered. :)
Still a great hair, even now.

Thank you for all comments  :-)

Yes, it's Kozaburo Messy Hair, and yes, still a great hair that's been for so many years in my runtime, just changed the texture because I didn't like the painted specular


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