Quote - o.k., the secret is out.  mum's the word.  these anims get easier after the first 100 or so. rendo does not want users to embed in these posts (excepting sigfiles), but they allow flv posts in their gallery.  the realisation is dawning on folks that flash embed is security risk, slows down whole page, and flash's days are numbered.

 

Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at putting .FLV in Gallery, or I can try what you did with the Animated GIF.

I've got these animation ideas and effects that I know Carrara can do... now its just a matter of doing  Brain to Carrara conversion :)