I kept silent on this place here, but before this one is going to start another holy war, I'd like to get some things straight. 1) There is no "Windows only" language, there are just "Windows only" compilers. 2) JAVA is no "Mac language" - the opposite is true. Apple was very slow in supporting it, and we are still waiting for 1.2 or 2.0 or whatever its called. 3) There is only one Java program that I know, John Wind's excellent Compose. And that one was a nightmare on Mac, it was just enabled to run on a Mac some weeks ago for the first time. 4) You won't see Macintosh creators here because they are all so nice to post their stuff as .zip and not as .sit (which is typically smaller, by the way). This prevents the PC users from the trouble of installing a separate expander. 5) The converter not only converts PC to Mac, it also converts Mac to PC in order to make the files completely look like PC originals. Hmm... thinking about 5) I probably should dump this feature and turn it into a "this file will never never perform on a PC" conversion in order to get Macs better identified? (don't worry, just joking)