Bloodsong, Man we must be on the same wavelength or something! I have an image very similar that is rendering as we speak -- it's a daytime pict but the mood is close. I'll post it probably tomorrow -- it's my first Vue pict, so at this point I'm just glad to be done with it! But I named my online gallery after a wolf -- I love wolves! Very cool image -- thanks for sharing! -Brian http://lonewolf.tierranet.com