yo, vector progs do not use bitmap plugins (say photoshop) plugins.... here go a list of vector progs fireworks-www.macromedia.com canvas-www.deneba.com coreldraw-www.corel.com ilustrator-www.adobe.com expression-sorry don't know the page for it.... this are vector progs, for drawing and designing, I use corel draw and I like it, it gives me what I need for doing web pages and so on... Flash comes in hand when doing animation and scripiting.... hope it helps....