Quote - To me it died...... this thread is a good example of why it has. Someone starts a topic and before you know it the thread is derailed by all kinds of other sub topics that  have nothing to do with the original topic at all and the thread is derailed. But that's quite a minor problem, the rest I'm not even going to mention to avoid being banned.

Thread drift.  Happens everywhere.  Surely you don't expect an OT thread to stay on topic.  That'd be recursive irony beyond all mortal understanding.

Most on topic threads generally stay on topic, at least until the mud slinging begins.  :)  And, in all fairness, the vast majority of posters to this thread do contribute a substantial amount of on topic and generally useful posts.  Even me.  So there.

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