Quote - I too believe better to learn the hard stuff..then the easy way is much more appreciated and you have the knowledge of both...and can tweak or whatever needs to be done.

Yep, I agree with this as well. But different strokes for different folks as they say ;o). These days there's so many program "helpers" that you really don't need to learn the hard stuff, as others have said. But I think it's better if you know because eventually you'll want to graduate to something more complicated that the helpers probably can't do :o).

Laurie