I promised to keep away but I couldn't resist, when I see the discussion stray away again.

1. That Marvelous Designer makes it easy for beginners is just an extra bonus, not the main thing. The main thing being that it makes cloth more natural and believable and advanced, and have the potential to turn Poser Barbie dolls and plastic cloth into real art. Instead of an occupation where grown people are dressing dolls.

2. You are talking as if the setup room was the problem when it is the groping that is the problem. (or should I say the tiresome part). If you go into the setup room with a real and advanced piece of cloth that is incorrect grouped you are going to have problems and no matter how hard you try it is not going to work.

So, now I am going to keep away, I promise!