damm! fast reply! lol I just hit enter and you already had replied..to both! Im making the basics of the hair techique..and it will be on posertech.com not brycetech.com when I get it all set up. This is totally unexplored territory within poser..so its got to be pushed a bit to see how it holds up. Then I tell how to do it. I will probably do real hair for the cat and the dog that comes with poser...just to illustrate the power of this hair...but like I said, I have to perfect the technique. The conforming hair model above is <5000 poly. So I can make it 3x as good without being any kind of problem. I will probably do the cat's hair next just for a test. (the daz bear would rock with this hair!) BT