You just don't shrinkwrap a bunch of shit around a model and suddenly you have a good model with the same shape, you end up with a shitty model that has kinda-the-same shape.

Pjz99,  You're a top modeler and i wish they would take your advice and instruction.  i know i have in the past and learned a lot from you(even though you had to beat it into my head,LOL!).

WandW,  Where's the best fish and chips you ever had?