Damn! What insight! Yes, bloodsong, that's exactly the type of stuff we need for Vue-- more control over the terrains! While I have to admit to being slightly confused by some of your suggestions (I've gotten used to it, LOL), I would lay my life down for some SERIOUS control over the terrain editor. well, I'm not about to die for Vue, but you get the idea. :) Like, knowing which way is pointing North, for example....