Quote - I think it's pretty obvious that these three

wolfie (as he is here)

SilverDolphin (Dare to share in DAZ Studio forum)

testingrocky (Dare to share in Poser and Vue forum)

have a mission to spam.

They joined years ago at Renderosity and only post spams. Why not delete their accounts and finish this? You can't debate with spammers and they are considered in some countries as criminals.

If they don't have the money for advertising it's not the problem of us Poser users who use this forum for other reasons.

*Spam,  however, is defined as using electronic media (such as email, sitemail, and forums) to send unsolicited bulk messages. *

You forget "such as comments that are advertisements". The phrase "such as" does not exclude it. I know this is a commercial site but if you further open the door for these kind of spam it's sad.*

That, sir, is a TOTAL LIE and this as a personal attack.  You FALSELY stated that I "have a mission to spam" and "joined years ago at Renderosity and only post spams".  I can't speak for the others you listed but for me, both are FALSE accusations and defamatory. 

"Personal attacks. This includes but is not limited to, destructive, abusive, defamatory communications in any form, and retaliatory attacks from personal attacks."

defamatory [dɪˈfæmətərɪ -trɪ]

adj(Law) injurious to someone's name or reputation defamatorily  adv

I have posted EXACTLY ONE post in the past 11 YEARS that could even remotely be considered spam (and I STILL don't consider it spam, but thats the current debate here). One post in 11 years is clear evidence that I am NOT on a mission to spam.  Only one post out of all of them is clear evidence that I do NOT post only spams.  You are spreading personal lies and mis-information about an individual in a defamatory way.  YOU just broke the TOS that you hold so dear and wish to use to remove others from these forums by deleting their accounts.

Appology forthcoming from you I hope?

 

 

Quote - DAZ is DAZ.  Renderosity is Renderosity.  We are two different sites, with different policies.  We try to have a symbiotic relationship in some regards, but, in the end, each site will follow their own policies.

I agree with this.  They are complely different sites.  DAZ does have a commercial tag to mark those types of posts, which I did look for here.

 

Quote - Second, I do agree that pmG should have at least posted what their goal was.  I've seen deals like this for years, and taken part in a lot of them.  Artfire (an online handmade/vintage goods shop) had a similar one in November, and I think their push was to get 1000 people to sign up, and if they met their goal, everyone who signed up would get their shop fees set to $5 per month forever, instead of $15 per month.  Groupon does similar, as does Deal of the Day, which I use almost constantly.  It's not a ponzi scheme, not a pyramid scheme...it's like the priceline commercial.  Getting customers to pay 50% for an item is better than not having any customers at all!

This too is an accurate statement for the most part.  This is NOT a ponzi scheme nor a pyramid scheme.  Anyone who calls it that is apparently missinformed about the messiah offer or doesn't understand what these two schemes are or how they work.

A ponzi scheme is based on paying investors from their own investments or the income when other investors buy in.  That is CLEARLY not the case here with messiah.  Nobody is getting paid for anything except for the parent compang selling the product.

A pyramid scheme promises returns from the enrolment of others.  The more people you get to enroll the more profit you make.  You are also promised profits from the people those people enroll.  Supposedly.  Profits come, not from the sale of a product or service, but from the enrollment alone.  This is also clearly not the situation either.  The only benefit we get by recruiting others is the license we paid for.  They have stated that all will get a refund if their goal isn't met.  Sorry, this is NOT a pyramid.

The only point that I slightly disagree with is they have no requirement to post the goal in actual sales.  That would give their competitors information about their user count.  No business wants to disclose information like that to their competitors.  I personally would like to know but its really not relevant. They display a % bar that you can simply view the HTML and see the numeric progress (percent wise, not in actual number of sales), which is currently at 41% (up from 32% yesterday last I checked).

My only mission was to let folks know about the deal.  I have succeeded with that.  This is not, nor ever was intended to be spam.  It was intended to be information about a good deal on an application that can be used with, alongside, or in lieu of Poser.  I still think its relevant to the poser forms but the moderators have chosen otherwise.  So be it.

 

I can only suggest that in the future everyone be cautious about posting that Victoria 5 has been released or is on sale at DAZ or that a new version of UVMapper has been released or even putting links to other stores in their sigs lest they be accused of being a spammer.