I picked up a copy of Bryce 4 at, Oh, I'm thinking it was a CompUSA back in 1997/98. Started playing with it and found the Bryce Forum over on Delphi.com where I was a long time member. They were talking about how they used Poser to put people in their Bryce scenes and that's all it took for me to go find Poser, version 4. Been at it ever since.