Thanks for the response, Mark. Good to see you're still here, and still using Cararra. So the .151 release hasn't really been officially released yet? So, if I bought C8P today, I'd still not have a stable release for Mac? Or am I misunderstanding you? I've been looking around the Daz site and see that there are still a number of ways that Mac is treated as second class. Things like collada export "support for the MAC OS will follow," and the fact that the Mac AfterEffects export is only good on AE6.5. (CS5 is version 10, isn't it? 6.5? Really?) Forgive me if I sound unconvinced. Really, have they stepped up to actually support Mac, or are we still the unloved stepchild? Can you hear my pain from years of abuse and neglect? ;^)