the british use "pants" as the thing they wear under their "trousers".  rumour has it they also were the inventors of the "7-day pants" - a very economical and labour saving idea, one might add.  oops =  crosspost w/odf.     in resp. to following posts, one can only say there's usually nothing beneath the underpants that one can discuss in polite company.

however, i should try this antonia obj file in c7pro - it appears the zero cr2 pose has non-zero bend at elbow.