Quote - hi dale!

drooling over the 'grab and move/rotate controls or something else?

Hi Opera! Yes. There are just so -many- goodies there! Hard/soft IK, softbody, hair, autorig, etc etc etc.... Getting the figures out of Poserland and into Messiah is definitely going to be a challenge (not really wanting to spend $99 on the Decimator plugin for DS3, but DAZ figures at least =are= way too polygon heavy overall), but once done....talk about a speedup of workflow.... Of course this will change said workflow; more shot compositing and less 'import into Vue and render'. The one area that concerns me is the shader system; I haven't gone hunting up documentation on it yet (unless it is in the 901 page pdf one of the longtimers at setuptab put together), but atm this makes 2 systems to wrangle with, Vue and Messiah... Hm. If a Poser mesh will slow Messiah, a Vue terrain would freeze it solid. I wonder if you could export a Vue terrain (Not a procedural, fgs...), take it into something like modo and decimate it enough to retain the shape you need, and major tree locations, and import =that= to use as a locator for keying action in the outdoors, then compositing it with the original scene? Experiment #1453 on my list.... And yeah, I sat for like half an hour last night just grabbing and moving the camera gizmos, just enjoying the precision and ease and accuracy.