With posers slider to view the difference, you can really see a difference. but without it, it is difficult. If you look at the rim lit area's you can see how they change. So far, as a whole I think I like the older version better, but I really like the new set up with the maps at the begining of the new one. I think I want to tweek the new one more to see if it grows on me. Any idea's how to lessen the greying effect? And what is that PM node, the one on the bottem all about (show ssse)?