Kate, I will need directions, although I know where Richmond is (my storage unit is up there), people might arrest me if I walked up and down the streets calling for a shrew. My email is hauksdottir@earthlink.net Which Jim? JimX and James Schoen are both interested, but I'm not sure if this weekend is good for either of them. Many artists are converted to CG as soon as they learn about the "undo" button. I use permanent pigments, and there is no gloom like knowing that glaciers will come and go before you can get the wrong color removed from a painting which is almost finished, and almost perfect. Let's see if I can rustle up some brownies. Carolly