Include morphs works on some conforming items. Most of the time it goes bonkers and I use a D3D script called copy morphs instead as it works everytime. But as stated the morph has to already be in the cloth to start with (or added with various tools available)

The include scale works most of time. The only time include scale can go off that I have found is when on a few long skirts that have handles (bones) to control the lower part of the skirt. I use the SP4 short(en) proportions moprh on V4 in about 0.400 to 0.600 range on almost all my V4 characters. On the long skirts with handles that don't work, normally a reveal dials of the handles and playing with the Y scale can solve the problem. So far I have one dress with handles that I could not make look right.

The only other issue when using the shorten morph is prop hair and you have to adjust some to get them to fit or look right as they have no include scale option. And as I write this D3D has a copy scale script, that I will try on prop hair with I get home in another hour that might solve that problem.

Gary

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