thanks mark figured that out sort of but it saved the sword texture with it, wanted it with out a texture added so I can apply it to any texture lol not sure if that is possible though but we cant always have what we want all the time.

 

Still courious as to what BB mentioned about this

 

Quote - "
Now - a perfect mirror is invisible and boring if the world around it is empty. This is where you want to use either:

1. A Sphere_Map node connected to an image

2. My Environment Sphere with a 360 degree image in it."

 

is that way to fake sometthing being in the scene honestly I dont use props and scenes to much usely render my figure with an empty scene and work from there.

But as I learned if there is nothing in the scene the reflections turn white which is bad bad bad lol. So I guess what I am trying to figure out is what he mentioned takes an image of say an outdoor image and tricks poser to using that image to reflect off things.