Fracture may have it right. Part of what builds community is the opportunity to help each other. Part of what builds satisfaction is making something better than it was before. If Poser was perfect out of the box and did everything we imagined, how many of us would be here? And how many would stand in awe of Kozaburo's hair or Jaager's joint controls or Schlabber's poses or Serge's clothes or all the incredible texture creators? Would we visit the galleries for inspiration, or would we just sit tight in our own tiny universe content with the contents of a box? Poser is less than perfect, but it gives us potential. Carolly