Thanks for the feedback. I think I am still a beginner, but no longer a newbie. I started on Corel draw when my arthritus got to bad to do the dress designing and dress making that I used to, got Bryce 2 as a mag giveaway, bought bryce 3 as a set with poser 3 and got hooked. Only been really using poser since about April when i Bought 4.o3 from curious labs direct. I don't have a website but if Isaacnewton likes to e mail me I will send him the tex

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."