OK his picture was taken at 1:30pm. There was a some cropping for the first picture. I used PaintShop Pro, the second picture is softer because ... actually I think the flower moved. It was suddenly windy when I tried to take the photo. ( It happends to me every time. ) The card was roughly in the lower left ( say 7 or 8:00 - SW - 195 degrees clockwise depending upon how one thinks about things. ) Personally I like the second picture best. The other one is too distracting with the lines. Bsteph