heh, the fat kid is using a cartman clip and lip sinc. and that was just me toying with lip sinc, not actually focousing on what he looked like. he looks f'ed up because i stretched him out. i was more talking about the other 2. and i know that unless youhave the latest version of WMP, the last one may give an error because it is 640x640 instead of standard 640x480. i will remake it soon. thanx for the feedback.