I wasn't refering to that Steve. See, I don't use Daz Studio, I've never rendered anything at all in it, all of my image uploads here in the gallery and deviantart are Poser renders, I love Poser, and I'm very used to it, THAT is why I don't use Daz, it's not because I think it's evil, or because Daz is money hungry, or whatever else. Just because it does not suit my particular needs, doesn't mean I must act blind and deny the features that are certainly an improvement over Poser. I just don't agree with the stance of "DazStudio sucks because it's not Poser".