I just came from being on the DAZ website forum for most the day. Gotta say, there are some who are sticking to D3. D4 is just to complicated and aggrivating to figure out. some of it has to due with the loss of workspace pending how you customized your prior D3 workspace compared to D4. Some had to do with loss content. In the end, the final render is no better in 4 than it is in 3. I'm remainig loyal to 3 for now.