Well, I'll send it off to Cindy, Steve, even though this is really simplistic... Anyway, yes Sharen, they're definitely great flowers and already I'm thinking of a couple of serious projects to do with them.... Martial, I've loaded the obj and the 3ds, and honestly, I gotta talk to Cindy cause they ain't happening, and I want to know how to get it to happen for Bryce, which I still use...