Quote - What I think I am trying to do if possible is use the cloth room to dynamic the dress, then gather a pose from the simulation, apply that to the dress as a dial, recalculate another pose then apply that as a dial so that when the dress is loaded from the library it will have the dials saved so I can use it in Daz as well as Poser. by changing the dials.

Once I get a simulation done I would like to apply that as a dial and save it, is that possible?

Now I have done a spawn morph on the dress, but it didn't do the pose, it wasn't rigged, when i rigged it with the dev suit it parted mesh as if it were cut. that might be a result of the grouping but I am not sure if it is. It cuts out like that on all groups when conformed,

So when I did this on the dynamic obj to get a morph attached it loaded the dial but when spun it did not morph the mesh one bit.

If I do the same with a conformed mesh same occurance with the dial. It might be something very simple that I am overlooking, but what it is I do not know.

You're missing a couple of very important steps.

I understand that you used the initial "form" in the cloth room to get it to fit V4 and then exported the object to Wings.

Now here's where you are missing the steps.

First, you have to group the object properly according to the V4 groups.

Second, you have to rig the dress for it to be conforming.

Those 2 steps have to be completed before you can add morphs to the dress.  Only a conforming dress can use morphs.

Yes, you can use the dynamic cloth room to create morphs, though it it actually much easier just to do the body handles and movement dials during rigging.  But, if you want to do it in morphing, you can.

To understand the whole process, start reading at the link below and then read every page in his conforming clothing tutorial

http://www.morphography.uk.vu/modtut1.html: