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Subject: Apollo Belvedere


Mornaric ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 4:14 PM · edited Sun, 01 December 2024 at 11:59 AM

File:Belvedere Apollo Pio-Clementino Inv1015.jpg

I thought I'd give the talented people here at the Renderosity forums a try in asking this.

Does anyone know of an M4 set of poses that may include the pose of the famous statue? I've tried given it a go manually, but I'm not having a ton of luck with him.

Any thoughts about this would be more than welcome.

Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

Mike Dovers, proud user of Poser Pro 2010.


Mornaric ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 4:36 PM

Test of the Apollo Belvedere Pose

My apologies. This should had been part of the original post. This is what I've got so far. The biggest trouble I'm having is the neck and shoulders. Making one look right seems to always through off the other...

Mike Dovers.

 


basicwiz ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 4:41 PM · edited Sat, 06 August 2011 at 4:44 PM

uThe native Mike has too much musculature for the statue. Try dialing the muscles down and see if the pose doesn't get closer. Also, tilt the abdomen back about 10 degrees and the chest forward. The state slouches just a bit.


Mornaric ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 5:18 PM

Apollo Belvedere Test 2

Thank you for the suggestions, BW. Abs back 10 degrees, chest forward about 8 degrees. Dialed Adonis back a bit and took some of the general bulk off.

While doing so, noticed that the right leg in the statue seemed to be at an odd angle, so I altered mine a bit more to be closer. Can still tweak that.

Surprisingly, just adding the hair and the new light scheme did wonders too. I may be able to go with this since it's for a personal project. Has more of a god-like feeling now, with a little touch of a Colossus of Rhodes sort of thing thrown in for good measure!

I appreciate it, BasicWiz! (bows)

 

Mike Dovers

Poser Pro 2010 wSR1.1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, updated regularly.

Intel Core 2 quad q6600 with 8gb ram.

1 & 1/2 terabyte storage split between 3 HDD's

and an EVGA GTX 470, good for rendering or fragging! ;)


LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 6:06 PM · edited Sat, 06 August 2011 at 6:07 PM

The statue also leans to the right slightly (the statue's right), putting all the weight on the right leg, which is bent ever so slightly. Also, the left arm on the statue is farther forward than it appears in your pose with the left collar following.

Laurie



basicwiz ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 6:23 PM

LaurieA is corect. Rotate the hip just a little to the right and bend the thigh slightly forward and the shin slightly back. Proably going to have to tinker with the foot bend as well.


Mornaric ( ) posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 6:51 PM · edited Sat, 06 August 2011 at 6:57 PM

Apollo Belvedere Test 3

Thank you for the suggestions, LaurieA and BasicWiz! Your suggestions have been implimented.

I notice that the original's left arm is lower than mine, and it is also holding something. I've no need to duplicate that exactly, so for my needs, the hand pointing slightly upwards is fine. I also can get away with approximating the right hand, especially since the original is missing some fingers...

I see what you mean by the foot also, but I'm not going to tweak that further until I see what he looks like with sandals on.

I also altered the angle of the head slightly. The original looks like he's looking at the top of whatever was in his hand. Since mine isn't holding anything, him looking just over the top and past the hand works fine.

He looks good folks!

Mike Dovers

p.s. and I see that when I altered his hip, it made him look almost bent forward again. I fixed that in the next version. ;)


lkiilerich ( ) posted Sun, 07 August 2011 at 2:54 AM

take a look at his right leg its angel and bend is wrong as Laurie and basicwiz also wrote :-)


Mornaric ( ) posted Sun, 07 August 2011 at 4:23 AM

Apollo Belvedere Test 4

When in doubt, look at something again eh? :)

It also helps to remember that I can load the original image of Apollo as a background image. What was surprising when I did that is how close I actually came, just by eyeballing it. Looks like I need to still bend the right foot a hair more.

And I thank you as well, Ikiilerich!

Soon, backgrounds. Stonemason I'm thinking...

Mike Dovers


lkiilerich ( ) posted Sun, 07 August 2011 at 5:17 AM

Jaaah now it looks good - well done :-)


shuy ( ) posted Sun, 07 August 2011 at 6:31 AM

I think that you can side-side abdomen little bit left and chest liitle bit right.

I guess that this is archer pose just after shooting arrow, then inertia should swing his torso little bit to "S" shape.


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