Turn the argument around and think that some folks like BagginsBill choose a more challenging app like Poser to create their own effects rather than having a cadillac app like 3d Max that can do everything for you if you pay enough money or go to school to get a license... apps most people cannot afford basically unless they pay a tuition.

For a true artist, wouldn't a limited app pose more of a challenge?

Could Stonemason make his masterpieces using only Poser? If painted into a corner, I believe he could. He'd figure a way to do it - i believe. It's the impulse, the desire, the hunger to create... more than the app.

That said, most folks use Poser by using premade characters and clothes and shaders and poses and lights... and MOST POSER USERS never read these forums and don't give a f*ck what anyone other than gallery goers think about what they're doing.

This is the primary thing I think folks inside and outside Poser don't get.

Folks who are posting to the galleries right now don't read this forum bullsh*t. They don't even pay attention to the most eloquently written forum posts... they don't read us at all.

They post their renders and move on with their lives.

That is the beauty of Poser.

You don't need to cut off your ear and send it to your lover for her to appreciate Poser as much as you do. You just render your daily fantasy and share with your friends in the gallery.

You don't have to paint or sculpt or know photography or have to know how BagginsBill's shaders work or own a $4000 app... you just render your fantasy and share it with your friends.

That's all.

That's it.

Nothing more.

They are not reading all these well thought out posts.